I just watched the Session Highlights of Spotify CEO Daniel Ek and investor/adviser Sean Parker’s talk with Walt Mossberg at the All Things Digital Conference, and it confirmed what I have thought for a long time: Spotify sucks, is bad for artists, and hopefully does not succeed. I am not saying this because I have bias (I work for eMusic). I am saying this because I am a musician, I know a ton of musicians, I play in a band, I have toured with my band, and I have seen behind the curtain of how the music industry works. I know how little money there is to go around it, and I can give you some examples.
Return of the Era of the Single?
One of the most irritating things I hear is that “people don’t want full albums, they only want singles.” People generally will say “albums only have one or two songs that are worth hearing, the rest is filler.” So, that’s a giant lie. Yes, I’m sure the one Chris Brown song you heard at the mall is the only good song on his record. But if you’re buying a Chris Brown record and going to the mall, you aren’t the kind of person that is going to deeply engage with a digital music service anyways. You probably also have bad taste. If you are a real music fan, you buy records because you like the artist. You want to hear the entire record.
Artists don’t go into the studio to record one good song and then load up the rest of the record with filler. I’m sure there are plenty of pop factory records that do, but in that case, the label is probably shooting to moon and trying to launch the new teen sensation or something. *Real* artists are trying to create something great. You would never get a Radiohead record and skip through the tracks until you found the hit. You listen to the entire record, know every song, and view the work as a whole, as a period in the band’s life.
Saying that people only want to consume bands and artists in a hyper-unaware, ADD fashion is insulting and a piece of misdirection. “Album sales are down, accept that people might pay for one song only and be happy about it!” No. There is nothing better than a great album by a great band. And there are many, new ones arriving weekly.
The simple facts are: an artist will make more money from the purchases of their album, digital or otherwise, than they will from the sum of streaming royalties. Let’s say an album sells for $10 on iTunes, the label gets $7, and the artist gets $2 of that. If the albums sells 100,000 copies – which in this day and age, is what a semi-famous indie will sell – the artist gets about $200,000. Assume the artist is a band with 4 people: $50,000 each (let’s make it $37,000 after taxes). If you’re from my hometown where the median income is in the mid-$20K range, congrats: you’re in the middle class. If you live in Brooklyn (probably Bed Stuy or Flatbush on that money), you make less than a 23 year old on their first job post-college.
So that money doesn’t look very good, right? Let’s look at another scenario. YOU’RE the label. You made the record in your bedroom, but it sounds great, and Pitchfork wrote about you. 100,000 albums is a dream, you sold 20,000 albums – huge numbers for a DIY-er. You make $140,000 / take off taxes / divide by 4. You’re poor.
Artists Have Other Revenue Streams, Right?
Um, not really…. I mean, there is touring. Let’s break down touring. Assume you are in my band, and you want to go on tour for 2 weeks (we’ve done this, a bunch of times). Before you even leave home, the vehicle rental is a fixed cost, about $3,000 – could be cheaper depending where you tour, but ultimately, it’s expensive. If your only income is your band, this could be a non-starter. $750 per man from someone making $1,000 a month is a lot of money. Remember, the money made from an album doesn’t come in one lump sum, and the royalties are cumulative for an entire 1-2 years, and money is probably only paid every quarter, if that often. And the money is only a reality if 1) you made an awesome record and 2) people buy it. Not just “people,” but every person who likes the album. You can see where our numbers fall apart again.
So not only do we have to pay about $3,000 for our van, we need to put gas in it every day. Not sure if you’re aware how expensive gas is these days, but speculation by banks into the commodities and futures markets have caused things like gas to shoot up into the holy shit expensive range. When you go to fill up your gas tank, expect to drop $100 every time. Let’s assume you fill up 2/3 of the days you are on tour (10 days). There’s another $1000 in fixed costs.
You might be asking, why not play venues that are closer together? You would save money! That would be awesome, but that’s not gonna work. Every state in America has a finite number of towns in it that are even remotely interesting. Try this: name 6 towns in Virginia that have music venues that support your style of music. Ok, now get booked in all 6 towns. You can’t because: you may have zero draw (number people willing to come see and pay money for it), the venue is already booked, the promoter might not like your music.
But let’s shoot the moon. Let’s say you booked all 6 venues back to back. Since you’re on a 2 week tour, let’s assume you’re playing every night. For one hour. Monday-Saturday, 6 nights in a row in Virginia. Since you’re new to the area, cover is $5 and you keep everything after the first 20 people pay. For four people in your band to split $100 a night, you need to have 40 paying customers every night for 6 nights. That means: to cover your gas for Tuesday and zero dollars left to split, you need to bring 40 people out to a music venue in Virginia, that may or may not even know who you are and have them plop down $5 to do so. You’re also trying to do this at a venue in a potentially backwoods town, and the venue might have 5 bands a night, 7 days a week.
This is not meant to be a horror story, this is reality. It is insanely hard to make money touring at a DIY level. But what you’re probably thinking is: yeah, but larger acts make a fucking killing, it’s just your shitty band that can’t make any money. Fair, but let’s break that down. Aerosmith? Yes, private jets, made $20M for 10 shows in Rio recently, boatloads of cash. Springsteen could sell out 20 nights in a row at Giants Stadium. But the number of people who can even come close to doing anything like that is very very small.
I know a band (they’ll remain nameless) that was recently in Pollstar’s Top 50 grossing acts. The band grosses about $1M a year from touring. They make guarantees at venues. A talent buyer calls up their booker and says he’ll give them $X to play at Y venue. The band thinks it over and might accept. They have a consistent draw in enough markets to command a decent guarantee. The band also sells a lot of merch. Because they are a jammy / folky kind of band, they don’t sell a lot of records. So, touring is their main source of income. Band has a booker, a manager, a crew, and 5 band members. My friend is in the band. What is his cut of that million dollar pie? $32,000 a year. $10K less than I made at my first job in NYC. And they’re a SUCCESS story!
Their tour bus runs about $700 a day. They have to add some production value to their show, so they have a crew. Manager takes his cut off the top, and they have to take out money for taxes. My friend assures me that NO ONE is making the money you think they are making from touring. A lot of major pop acts will release a single from a new album, and if it doesn’t blow up like they expect, they’ll cancel their stadium / arena tour, knowing how expensive it is to not have consistent sellouts (Kelly Clarkson and Christina Aguilera both cancelled tours a few years ago, rather than scale back).
So where are those other revenue streams?
Spotify pays about $0.0004 per stream. Let’s say you write an amazing pop tune, the internet goes crazy, and Spotify’s users stream that song One Million Times. $400. You and your 3 bandmates are taking home a cool $100 a piece. Having your song streamed a million times means your band has some level of fame. And your reward for blanketing Spotify with your single is 400 fucking dollars. Let’s assume my math is WAY off and Spotify actually pays a penny ($0.01) per stream. Congrats on your cumulative payout of $2500 per man. If you are super broke, you’re happy, for a month.
Of course, let’s realize that almost no one generates 1 million streams. So almost no one is making that much money, which isn’t even a lot of money.
Artists Get Exposure?
I have heard SO MANY people defend Spotify and say “but artists get exposure.” How? How does generating a $0.0004 payout to an artist qualify as anything other than “I just got to hear music on demand for free.” That artist probably spent $2000-10000 making their record. So those million streams are just paying them back for that (if they get the huge royalty rate of one fucking penny per stream, which is absurdly high). They then hope to translate those listens into paying customers at their shows.
Here is where the logic falls apart for me, because none of the people who say that (“artists get exposure”) are in a band, have toured, and have had to generate an audience of paying customers. It is very very hard to get all of your FRIENDS to come to a show, much less strangers in a area where you are not from and have no roots. Saying that streams translate into concert attendance makes the false assumption that everyone who listens to music sees all of those bands in concert every chance they get.
MOST people don’t ever see live music. MOST people don’t go out on Tuesday nights. Some markets work different than others. In NYC, you might have people come out on a Tuesday night and see you. In some college markets, the same. But even in rowdy college towns, you can’t always rely on a huge turnout on weeknights, even from those people who enjoy your music.
To make the argument that somehow Spotify changes this is ludicrous. Otherwise, what does “exposure” mean? Does it mean this listener is now going to spend top dollar for your goods? They were just of Spotify to SAVE MONEY, and NOT PAY full price, or at all, for your music.
There is no added exposure, there’s $0.0004 to you and your buddies.
Music is not Free
I don’t care how this sounds – Lars Ulrich was ahead of his time. Napster somehow made everyone believe that music is free and it is Your Right to be able to download the shit out of it, at will, for eternity. In that scenario, musicians are basically expected to live in abject poverty. Yes, you’ll have your manufactured stars that appear to have it all, and the few that break through actually will. But in society these days, music and movies and art are seen by the general public as not a product, but as an unalienable right that all people have to download and then vote on the life or death of the artists who created them.
At the end of last year, I was really into The War on Drugs lastest record. I actually see all the bands I respect live, so I was at their sold-out show at The Bowery Ballroom. I hung around after to have some beers and maybe meet the band, since I noticed they were packing up their merch tables themselves. Standing there, I overheard the lead singer’s friend ask the band where they were crashing that night (the band is from Philly). Lead singer: “The Red Roof Inn in Secaucus, my dad got us 2 rooms.”
LCD Soundsystem played their final show at Madison Square Garden last year, rounding off a year of a tour or 2 at some of the biggest venues and festivals across the world. James Murphy appears to make a bunch of dough, but I know someone who knows Nancy Whang (maybe the 2nd most recognizable person in the band), and she’s close to 40 years old and lives with 2 roommates. I know other members of the band do a lot of substitute teaching.
When I saw the Dirty Projectors play the 4th of 4 sold-out shows at The Bowery Ballroom a few years ago, they were setting up their own gear because they don’t have a crew, and that was at the height of their popularity – The Roots and David Byrne joined them on stage that night.
When Sharon Van Etten made her record last year, she actually didn’t live anywhere – she was crashing with different friends throughout. And these are the SUCCESS stories. These are some of the most revered artists of present day. Magazine covers, indie label contracts, the occasional video, Take Away Shows, sold out NYC shows. And they’re just scraping by. Spotify’s not saving them, and won’t.
Imagine what Spotify’s not doing for artists that aren’t at the top of the game.
Sounds like it is survival of the fittest, it is sad, but it is what it is.
Gone are the days when it took effort and sacrifice to create music, now just about anybody can buy a sequencer, daw and a few other necessities, add some talent, and you got a new prospect, now multiply that times X ( a lot of people) doing it, some not good, some good, some very good, some excellent. Now the distribution is easy, no cost of of burning LPs of CDs, direct download, pirate it, buy it, spotify it, it is all too easy… Survival of the fittest, only top acts will survive, sadly some true talent wont see the day of light, that is survival of the fittest.
To make living making music is no possible, must have a different way, and be able to try your musical skills on your own dime, but keep your day job, or it is a sad time…
Times have changed…
Times are always changing. The golden short lived era of raking in the big bucks are over!
Think about all those guys who got screwed by record companies in the 50’s….people who had nothing to do with a record would end up getting credited for it–royalties included–not to mention all those blues guys who literally got nothing. Then think about how arrogant and greedy the record labels are…cheap production of records, cheaper materials, not bothering to master albums after format changes, changed and even censored album covers….then I think about all the format changes…how many times can a consumer/fan buy the same album?? Plus my own personal gripe that I actually believed in the musicians and the music…as something more than just a product. Ever felt conned after buying an album?
I’m a guitar player of sorts….and it would be great to make a living doing that…Shit, thirty grand sounds good to me for doing something I do free anyhow….and the rush of playing for people…even a small intimate crowd…..I have absolutely zero respect or sympathy for the music industry….what happened with the digital age was a balancing in a way. In my opinion they had it coming big time. Karma—it’s a bitch!
The thing is that there are going to be tons of people like me….making music at home for absolutely zero cost in practical terms…and then sharing them for free. Eventually you are going to get a massive body of absolutely free music …and probably more innovative and interesting — Even file sharing sites are/were (if they were shut down) increasingly sharing more and more original user content–small experimental albums made on free audio programs —people collaborating with other people they’ve never even met etc…If I was a conspiracy nut I would say that this is what really scares the record companies–the big greedy corp ones anyhow…….it’s probably their biggest fear that an anarchist model has come out of nowhere and kicked their asses….
Yeah, I feel bad about the musicians who are getting screwed over…but I’m pretty sure this is nothing new, especially in the music industry—But damn dude! AC/DC didn’t have three grand for a tour bus when they started…and Zeppelin drove themselves to gigs squashed up in cars….Everything’s changed and yet remained the same… Maybe professional artists and big and small labels alike have to get more creative..and on the record label side less greedy. Maybe throw in a cool poster and stickers with your product/music…Make album cover art something cool again–try and make money off your merchandising—- that’s another gripe of mine…How many album/cd covers just plain suck! Not even cool font logos ….
I think if money is the main concern and you want to get rich or just make an upper middle class income by making music you have to accept the fact that you are also a business man and that you have to act accordingly…it sounds totally horrible to me…..but then again I’m finding tons of free interesting and innovative amateur music out there that’s blowing my mind…..and not to mention how cool I think it is to share music for free…..
Anyhow, I’m rambling on…The reason why spoitify really sucks …is that I actually stopped dl music and started using sites like spotify and I didn’t even mind the commercials/advts …etc…but now they are limiting the times you can listen to a track and how many hours a month you can listen to the service for free. See they never get it.
BTW if you look up my page on FB I have some really pathetic music trax you can listen to for free…it cost me absolutely nothing to make…one guitar, a drum machine, audacity software<—-the band!
Please don't be too cruel….it's just a hobby …I'm not going for R & R glory
Aki Akroidian name I use on Facebook.
Spotify is not making you lose any customers. Those that buy albums will buy them. What Spotify does is kill any incentive for those who would otherwise pirate. It is so easy for someone to pirate an album, but Spotify is even easier, and the listener would learn not to pirate. Most people just listen to music on youtube (which is illegal). If you can’t get enough hits to make a living, than a career in music is obviously not for you. There are other young aspiring artists who will take advantage of this service.
Bad point, but curious why didn’t you instead write simply, “Hey, y’all! I ain’t never been in a band before, but Yee-haw! I got an opinion!!!” ?
Wow Brandon, you and the author of this piece are pompous jerks. He made a good point, and need not be in a band to have an opinion. The fact is, the structure of the music industry is changing. Whine about that all you want. Artists have always struggled and always will. Shakespeare had to find patrons to support him and his work. If this new business model sucks so bad and all of you deep, meaningful artists suddenly stop making art, then the tide will turn again and another business model will develop. Get over yourself already.
I disagree. I fucking LOVE Spotify. And because of its existence, I have not bought an album in 2 years. Why would I? I have premium and can listen to almost any album anywhere anytime w my PC and phone.
Spotify should be banned. It sucks.
I googled Spotify sucks and ended up here. Did eMusic ever fix its policy of “no rollover” downloads? It seems to be the #1 reason why I and most people I talk to left eMusic years ago.
I think you’re right, Spotify, Pandora, Shazam they commodify music. They make you not care about the individual artists as much, because there’s so much good stuff out there. But I also think that there may be a big desire for good albums coming back. These things go in waves.
The music industry, as we knew it is dead. This is a tremendous progress for music fans. Artists will have to evolve with it now.
Couple other things. Although I agree with the author about albums….it is a fact that many buyers of music do not look at it that way. Their loss….but the music industry will have to live with it.
Also….there probably over 100 bands that I had never heard of that are now getting at least SOMETHING from me. Pkus when they are in my town I go check them out.
Finally….we always hear sbout how musicians are not about money. We even hear some of the biggest stars being called “sell outs”. Maybe this will shift the fo us a little bit. Or…maybe the capitalist minded musicians will find a way to mske money in this changing world.
I am actually a rhapsody user and have been for 10 years. These products are a music fan’s dream.
well that was fucking depressing